Yes, I'm still working on a good float charger for maintaining my batteries. See my other posts on this here and here for a recap of the project. I finally gave up on the LM7805 circuitry that comes with these devices. The Harbor Freight 42292 charger used to be controlled by a LM317 variable voltage regulator a long time ago. They probably changed the regulator at some point to lower cost or overcome a supply problem. However, it originally was a much better device; it even had a variable resistor in it to allow the end user to tweak it a bit to fit his purposes. I got a clue on this during my searches to get ideas on what to do. Here is the link to a schematic of the original device (link). Notice how different it is from the current circuitry? Just so I have a picture to talk about, here is the schematic from that site:
Back in those days, the wall wart was just a transformer so the diodes to rectify the supply were in the little black box. IC1 is a LM317 and notice how they set up the resistor array to limit the range of available voltage and have a transistor to limit current? Nice design that you can find all over the web.
I just duplicated part of this on a small piece of protoboard that I cut to match the size of the existing board. It came out like this:
The input on the left is the wall wart's 19 VDC (apx) output; VR1 is a 1K, 25 turn potentiometer I picked up on eBay; R2 is 1.2K; and R3 is 180 ohms. This gives the charger a range of about 9.6 to 16 or so volts. To calibrate it, I put a 1K resistor across the output, set it for 13.4 volts and then took the resistor off. When I hooked it to the battery, it floated the battery up to 13.37 volts over an hour or so and just held it there.
I rely on the LM317 to take care of itself. It has over current and over temperature protection built in and regulates the voltage quite nicely. If I discharge the lead acid battery by pulling a lot of current such that the voltage drops down to 12.4 or so, the IC will get hot, but not dangerously so. Then over time, it charges the battery back up to the 13.4 volt level and just holds it there.
So, since I'm only using the wall wart, plastic enclosure, and heat sink of the original device, did I save any money? Yes. The wall wart alone is worth the price I paid for the original charger and the rest of it serves as a platform for the charger I ended up with.
So far, I've converted three of these devices to the new design and they are chugging away keeping batteries charged. I chose 13.4 V as the float point based on experience and a suggestion from a helpful person on the Arduino forum; this seems to be the best point to hold the battery without losing water to the charge current. I haven't had to add any water to any of the batteries yet. Over time, I'll know if I need to make adjustments to this, but at least now I can.
Thinking about this a bit, it brings up an interesting point. This wall wart can supply an amp easily and the output seems to be very good, that means I have just made a variable voltage 1 A supply that can serve various general purpose uses around the house. The next time they have these on sale with a 20% off coupon I may pick up a bunch of them and stockpile them for later use. Heck, since the LM317 can work as long as the difference from voltage in to voltage out isn't more than 40 V, I could use it to control the voltage from a 24 VAC transformer like I needed way back in the thermostat project. I needed 5 VDC from a rectified 37 VDC taken from an air conditioner power supply; this would have saved me about $20 in power supply cost.
Thanks for the information on building a charger. When you said, "To calibrate it, I put a 1K resistor across the output, set it for 13.4 volts and then took the resistor off. ", did you mean to replace the 1K resistorReplyDelete
with one of the value determined by the 1K? Thanks again
No, I just needed something to pull some current so that I wasn't measuring open circuit voltage. So, I clipped a 1K across the leads, turned the pot to get the voltage I wanted and the took the resistor off.Delete
Tried this the other day and it worked perfectly, thanks for sharing this post.ReplyDelete
Cool. Have fun with it.Delete
is you chargers still working
Actually no. I had a pack rat get into the barn and it decided it wanted the wire more than I did. I salvaged many of the parts, put out rat poison in the corners and used the parts in other projects.Delete
Since then I found a float charger that works really well and put it in service to keep the batteries charged. I still have a couple of XBees running to check the voltage remotely, but I don't look at them to often.
The experience I got building up the charger helped in several other projects also, so all in all, it was a good experience.
Which float charger did you end up going with? I've been using an OptiMate 4 for the past couple years, but it's expensive and I have a lot of batteries in different locations to tend to...Delete
I'm using a Yuasa SmartShot 900 on two tractors, a quad and a big Ford. I chose it because of the reviews and the companies reputation in the battery area.Delete
I've been running them for quite a while now and never had a dead battery when I went to start the machine. They don't boil the water out of a battery unless the battery has a bad cell and never reaches charge voltage.
I leave them connected for months at a time on some of the machines.
are you still charging at 13.4V and what charger do you use nowReplyDelete
i dont suppose you have made a drawing of the circuit